Sonicbids Reinvents the Wheel (Nerd Alert Blog)

But seriously, if you haven’t heard, Sonicbids is catching up to what’s cool and hip these days so, I don’t want to give them too much crap about it. They’ve done an awesome thing here allowing their users to sync their Sonicbids account with Facebook and allowing calendar dates and status messages to be synced with Facebook, Twitter, Myspace and Pure Volume. That is, if you are one of the artists that still inputs all your data into Sonicbids in the first place. Which leads me to the biggest WTH? ever: They still don’t import your dates from ArtistData even though THEY OWN ARTISTDATA!!! AAAARG! (Ok, I’m done) And, it seems that the “calendar updates” only apply to Pure Volume and the rest (FB, Myspace, Twitter) get status updates whenever you post a show with day-of-show postings to Twitter only. All of these things you’ve likely set up through other avenues already (ArtistData and Reverbnation) so, the best thing I can say about this is that it’s a huge leap forward for those artists who, for some reason, have not tried any other service but Sonicbids. 

Now, about the Sonicbids/Facebook artist profile page. A few things can be confusing so, let me give you a heads up:

1) If you are going to use this feature, be sure you’ve logged into your Sonicbids account and under “content” unmarked the box that would allow people to download your audio files for free. Unless, you want to give your music away for free. Then, let ‘er rip!

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2) There seem to be two customization pages. One is on Sonicbids and is self explanatory. Nothing complicated or fancy here. It is what it is and it’s easy enough to use. The second is when you go to the application on your Facebook edit page and sync it up. I only got there once and it asked me to upload a profile photo (as if it was re-creating my fan page from scratch) which, once uploaded, never changed anything. Meaning, I uploaded a new profile pic for nothing because there is no existing page that has it. It also invited me to share the page, invite friends, etc. etc. Once I navigated away from the page, I never found it again. Weird.

Bells and whistles:

You’ve got a custom banner, you can lock some content so that only people who like your page can see it (Note: this only locks them out of the Sonicbids tab, so, if you have your music, videos and pics on another tab, it doesn’t do much for you.), you have pics, videos, calendar (if you have that in the Sonicbids database) and a twitter stream. Plus, share and follow links. Comments are empty until someone comments directly on the Sonicbids/Facebook tab. Not bad. Not bad at all. Though, I can’t see a lot of people switching to this if they already make use of other apps unless they really, really want the “lock out until liked” feature. You can actually code that yourself with custom pages but most people don’t want to go to the trouble. 

 

Here is what it looked like when I used it: 

See it at work here!

Sonic

 

So, again, if you are a faithful and exclusive Sonicbids user, this is good news for you. If you want an easy way to “lock until like” your FB content, this is an option.

You be the judge. Let me know what you think.

 – LM

 

 

5 thoughts on “Sonicbids Reinvents the Wheel (Nerd Alert Blog)

  1. THE TRUTH ABOUT SONICBIDS:From learning that festival rosters are frequently completed prior to submissions being closed, to reading of several cases in which artists’ submission statuses have been changed to "not selected" for given opportunities despite no evidence of changes in their views or audio streams…In 2009, Sonicbids shared $3 million earned from submission fees with music promoters. As per Sonicbids’ "Promoter Terms of Service," in order to list a gig opportunity, one is required to pay a one time set-up fee of $50, agree to "accept/review" electronic press kit submissions (EPKs), "promote" his/her gig listing, and provide Sonicbids with a copy of their venue contract/licensing agreement to ensure the legitimacy of their event. Further, promoters who host CD comp opportunities are required to provide a copy of the comp once it is released, licensors must notify Sonicbids of songs placements, and those hosting prize pack giveaways are to confirm their goods were distributed to their winners.Promoters are able to easily recoup the aforementioned one-time charge by having NO restrictions placed on them in terms of what they wish to charge interested artists. While there is an increasing move toward providing more "Musicians’ Friend No-Cost Listings," in my experience, eligibility for these free submissions is often restricted to US residents, and the average going rate for submissions to major events (the ones that artists more than likely created their accounts in order to have access to) is between $10 and $50.In terms of payment, Sonicbids processes all submission fees (and covers additional expenses created by the use of their technology), and takes a varying percentage of each fee, before paying out its promoters. Promoters can also earn additional funds via "The Sonicbids Affiliate Program" by driving traffic to the site, thereby potentially increasing artist signups.Okay, okay, so all of this sounds well and good, and fairly correct policy-wise? Wrong! Here’s where all of you need to pay attention. [B]There is NO requirement on the part of promoters to provide Sonicbids with proof of a formal business license, references regarding their business history, or membership in an accredited business association like the Better Business Bureau. Moreover, you do not even have to have any past experience successfully working in the music industry – literally anyone can sign up. So long as you pay your fee and "appear" to abide by the terms of service (easily accomplished if you select a single Sonicbids artist per gig and provide them with a somewhat decent experience), you’re good to go, as they say.[/B]READ MORE HERE:http://www.fsu.ca/interrobang_article.asp?storyID=6757&sectionID=2&issueID=168

  2. Thanks so much for the post. I’m aware of the gaping holes in the Sonicbids system. The intent of my blog was not to take them down but to review a new service they added and compare it to what other companies are doing. I’m totally with you and I’m aware that some promoters are making a pretty penny by offering opportunities that don’t amount to much. I wrote a later post and mentioned how one should always research the opportunities on the site.But, I have to be fair. There are some legitimate opportunities on Sonicbids and some time tested opportunities offered by very reputable organizations. Personally, I wish those organizations would move their business to another site that has better guidelines for opportunities but, it’s been slow going. Though, Reverbnation is now offering opportunities and, I was told they take NO MONEY from the service. That’s right, they just want to offer the service to their users. More and more opportunities are offering through Reverbnation so, that’s awesome and, logistically I hope they can keep screening out the duds. In fairness, I don’t think it was the intention of Sonicbids to scam artists. I do, however, feel as if the money is more important than the customer. Bad business, in my opinion. So, I have no personal loyalty to them.There are also some new competitors on the horizon and I hope to be able to blog about them soon. Thanks for your awesome comment. Laura Marie(sent via mobile)

  3. <html> <head> <style><!– .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Tahoma } –></style> </head> <body class=’hmmessage’><div dir=’ltr’> Dear Laura,<br>Thanks for your response. I completely appreciate the motive behind the writing of your piece – I merely wanted to bring awareness to what unfortunately Sonicbids has become. I agree with you that this was likely not their intention to begin with, but at present, their site has become nothing more than a scam site off of which they earn a great deal of money by allowing dishonest promoters to solicit indie wannabes.<br><br>As for Reverbnation, I’m not certain if it’s much better. In my experience as an accomplished performer, legit festivals/conferences do NOT expect you to EVER pay a submission fee just to be considered; they have regular A&amp;R staff who earn salaries to do so.<br><br>Regardless, I’m glad you appreciated my comments.<br><br>Bests,<br><br><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><strong><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 25pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: ‘Old English Text MT’;">Rose Cora Perry</span></strong></font><b><span style="font-size: 16pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: ‘Lucida Handwriting’;"><br></span></b><strong><span style="font-family: ‘Baskerville Old Face’;">Singer. Songstress. Writer. Rolemodel</span></strong><b><span style="font-family: Garamond;">.<br><br>HER Records Inc.&nbsp;&amp; MusicSaves<br></span></b><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond;"></span></i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond;">553 Adelaide St. N. Suite 3B<br>London, Ontario, CA N6B 3J6<br><strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">P: </span></strong>(519)859-2059&nbsp;&nbsp; <strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">F:</span></strong> (519)679-0623<br><strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">EMAIL:</span></strong> </span><a href="mailto:rose_cora_perry@hotmail.com"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond;">rose_cora_perry@hotmail.com</span></a><b><span style="font-size: 9pt;"></span></b><br><br><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;">OFFICIAL SITE:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"> <font style="" color="#002060"><a href="http://www.rosecoraperry.com&quot; target="_blank">www.rosecoraperry.com </a></font><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"><strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">OFFICIAL EPK: </span></strong><font style="" color="#7030a0"><a target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://www.rosecoraperry.com/rcppresskit.htm&quot; target="_blank"><font style="">www.rosecoraperry.com/rcppresskit.htm </font></a></font><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"><strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">MUSICSAVES FOUNDATION:</span></strong> <a href="http://www.musicsaves.ca&quot; target="_blank">www.musicsaves.ca</a><br></span></span><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"><br>SO YOU WANNA BE IN A ROCK BAND COLUMN:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"> <br></span><font style="" face="Garamond"><a href="http://soyouwannabearockstar.blogspot.com&quot; target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"> </span></a></font><font style="" face="Garamond"><a href="http://soyouwannabearockstar.blogspot.com&quot; target="_blank">http://soyouwannabearockstar.blogspot.com</a></font><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;"></span><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;">CALL ME OLD-FASHIONED BUT… COLUMN: </span></strong><a href="http://callmeold-fashionedbut.blogspot.com&quot; target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"></span></a><font style="" face="Garamond"><a href="http://callmeold-fashionedbut.blogspot.com&quot; target="_blank"><br>http://callmeold-fashionedbut.blogspot.com</a></font><br><br><div></div></div></body></html&gt;

  4. <html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Yes, I absolutely appreciate your comments. Especially if they differ from my own. We all have unique experiences and perspectives. So, your response has me thinking because SXSW, Folk Alliance, Mountain NewSong, Kerrville Folk, etc., use Sonicbids for submission purposes. So, I’m wondering what your take is on that. And, this is out of pure curiosity because I’m wondering if it’s a difference in opportunities among music genres or if, from your experience, these wouldn’t fall under the same category as those you’ve taken part in.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, the other day I came across an opportunity on Sonicbids to buy a written review from Billboard Discoveries. You could pay somewhere around 4 or 5 hundred bucks to have your album professionally reviewed by an affiliate of Billboard magazine. No guaranty that it would be positive, of course. I was pretty disgusted. So, yes, I agree with your outrage. I’m not at all pleased with Sonicbids as a whole but, until organizations I belong to stop using it, my account remains active. Though, there are many of us who keep making the suggestion that said organizations stop using Sonicbids. Your experience is a great example for us to point to.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br>All my best,&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Laura Marie</div><div>(sent via mobile)</div></div><div><br></div></body></html>

  5. <html> <head> <style><!– .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Tahoma } –></style> </head> <body class=’hmmessage’><div dir=’ltr’> Hi there Laura,<br><br>I’m Canadian so I can only speak about Canadian events equivalent to the ones you’ve mentioned, but I have it on good authority that NXNE (our version of SXSW) and CMW have NEVER been responsible for signing a single act throughout the entire history they’ve been running. They are MAJOR money grabs as is COCA (the organization responsible for supposedly booking campus entertainment across all of our universities/colleges). <br><br>All said opportunities charge pricey submission fees and promise big dreams (ie: being able to perform in front of A&amp;R reps/major booking agencies/something impressive to put on the resume) and honestly are nothing more than excuses for industry execs to get together and party it up on the indie artists’ money.<br><br>As for the Billboard deal, yeah that’s nothing new – paying for publicity. Again here in Canada, you pay under the table to get hit radio and video singles – I’m sure it’s the same if not worst in the US given that the US has a far bigger entertainment market.<br><br><br><br><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><strong><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 25pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: ‘Old English Text MT’;">Rose Cora Perry</span></strong></font><b><span style="font-size: 16pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: ‘Lucida Handwriting’;"><br></span></b><strong><span style="font-family: ‘Baskerville Old Face’;">Singer. Songstress. Writer. Rolemodel</span></strong><b><span style="font-family: Garamond;">.<br><br>HER Records Inc.&nbsp;&amp; MusicSaves<br></span></b><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond;"></span></i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond;">553 Adelaide St. N. Suite 3B<br>London, Ontario, CA N6B 3J6<br><strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">P: </span></strong>(519)859-2059&nbsp;&nbsp; <strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">F:</span></strong> (519)679-0623<br><strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">EMAIL:</span></strong> </span><a href="mailto:rose_cora_perry@hotmail.com"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond;">rose_cora_perry@hotmail.com</span></a><b><span style="font-size: 9pt;"></span></b><br><br><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;">OFFICIAL SITE:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"> <font style="" color="#002060"><a href="http://www.rosecoraperry.com&quot; target="_blank">www.rosecoraperry.com </a></font><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"><strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">OFFICIAL EPK: </span></strong><font style="" color="#7030a0"><a target="_blank"> </a><a href="http://www.rosecoraperry.com/rcppresskit.htm&quot; target="_blank"><font style="">www.rosecoraperry.com/rcppresskit.htm </font></a></font><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"><strong><span style="font-family: Garamond;">MUSICSAVES FOUNDATION:</span></strong> <a href="http://www.musicsaves.ca&quot; target="_blank">www.musicsaves.ca</a><br></span></span><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"><br>SO YOU WANNA BE IN A ROCK BAND COLUMN:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"> <br></span><font style="" face="Garamond"><a href="http://soyouwannabearockstar.blogspot.com&quot; target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"> </span></a></font><font style="" face="Garamond"><a href="http://soyouwannabearockstar.blogspot.com&quot; target="_blank">http://soyouwannabearockstar.blogspot.com</a></font><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: ‘Times New Roman’;"></span><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;">CALL ME OLD-FASHIONED BUT… COLUMN: </span></strong><a href="http://callmeold-fashionedbut.blogspot.com&quot; target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Garamond;"></span></a><font style="" face="Garamond"><a href="http://callmeold-fashionedbut.blogspot.com&quot; target="_blank"><br>http://callmeold-fashionedbut.blogspot.com</a></font><br><br><div></div></div></body></html&gt;

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